My starboard halyard/keel winch is frozen. Any advise on repair/parts/replacement of this Lewmar two-speed self tailer #16 would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe Stattine-
Whizzard
Keel Winch
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Keel Winch
Joe Stattine
'Whizzard'
#191
Brainerd,MN
'Whizzard'
#191
Brainerd,MN
Disassembly is quite easy. I expect you have the older model with 4 philips-head bolts on the top.
Get a clean, empty cottage cheese container and fill it with Coleman fuel 2" deep. Do not smoke from here on out. Take off the bolts and drop them in the container. Lift up the black ring and drop it in the container. (pretty much everything goes in the fuel bath). Lift off the self-tailer stuff. Pry out the 2 brass tabs. Lift the drum off, Stuck? pry gently (gently) at several points around the base - carefull not to crack the casting. When the drum is off, pull off the 2 sleeve bearings. Then pull out the pins that serve as axles for the gears. Now, ease out the gears in pairs - they nest. Slide out the main drive sleeve. Very Carefully take the pair of nested gears apart. The pawls and springs are in there. Get it all apart and give it a good bath/soak/scrubbing to get all the 'gupus' off. The goal here is clean metal. I use a toothbrush (do not return it to the bathroom), more fuel as solvent, lint-free cloths, and have used a small screwdriver tip to scrape the grease that has become wax off. Clean all of the teeth at the base of the drum also. (My wife was a dental hygenist so I have an old tool or 2 to use here).
A frozen winch might have any of the baove mentioned parts that are stuck in place. Use solvent and gentle prying to get them apart. If things are bent, go to the web and buy a new winch.
All Clean!!! Good.
Using light oil (3-in-1 is good) reassemble all the pieces (watch those pawls and springs) ((if the pawls are worn get a kit of new ones from the web)) except for putting the drum on. With some waterproof grease (I use blue axle or white lithium grease) put a small coating on the teeth of the gears and work them until it is spread fully around. Now, put the drum on and redo the top.
Good Luck.!!
Nice write-up Tim. Thanks. About the only thing I'd add is to start with a box top, about 12" x 18". Cut a hole in it the size of the winch top. Fit the upside-down box top over the winch. This will both help retain any parts that go astray and prevent greasy bits from staining your gelcoat. When Tim says 'gently pry' he means gently. If something requires any significant force, there's a problem. Finally, if you've not done this before, look VERY carefully at each step before proceeding. Document the disassembly so that you can reassemble everything correctly. Tom Elsen
Get a clean, empty cottage cheese container and fill it with Coleman fuel 2" deep. Do not smoke from here on out. Take off the bolts and drop them in the container. Lift up the black ring and drop it in the container. (pretty much everything goes in the fuel bath). Lift off the self-tailer stuff. Pry out the 2 brass tabs. Lift the drum off, Stuck? pry gently (gently) at several points around the base - carefull not to crack the casting. When the drum is off, pull off the 2 sleeve bearings. Then pull out the pins that serve as axles for the gears. Now, ease out the gears in pairs - they nest. Slide out the main drive sleeve. Very Carefully take the pair of nested gears apart. The pawls and springs are in there. Get it all apart and give it a good bath/soak/scrubbing to get all the 'gupus' off. The goal here is clean metal. I use a toothbrush (do not return it to the bathroom), more fuel as solvent, lint-free cloths, and have used a small screwdriver tip to scrape the grease that has become wax off. Clean all of the teeth at the base of the drum also. (My wife was a dental hygenist so I have an old tool or 2 to use here).
A frozen winch might have any of the baove mentioned parts that are stuck in place. Use solvent and gentle prying to get them apart. If things are bent, go to the web and buy a new winch.
All Clean!!! Good.
Using light oil (3-in-1 is good) reassemble all the pieces (watch those pawls and springs) ((if the pawls are worn get a kit of new ones from the web)) except for putting the drum on. With some waterproof grease (I use blue axle or white lithium grease) put a small coating on the teeth of the gears and work them until it is spread fully around. Now, put the drum on and redo the top.
Good Luck.!!
Nice write-up Tim. Thanks. About the only thing I'd add is to start with a box top, about 12" x 18". Cut a hole in it the size of the winch top. Fit the upside-down box top over the winch. This will both help retain any parts that go astray and prevent greasy bits from staining your gelcoat. When Tim says 'gently pry' he means gently. If something requires any significant force, there's a problem. Finally, if you've not done this before, look VERY carefully at each step before proceeding. Document the disassembly so that you can reassemble everything correctly. Tom ElsenKeel Winch
When I pulled my winches apart I found that I had wear on one of the idler gears in the winch. The bore was a bit egg shaped. It was not bad enough to prevent the winch from working but I decided to move it to the other side where it would see less use and less load.
My winches are Barrient self tailers and they have an odd spring size. If anyone knows a source for Barrient springs please let me know. They are smaller than the common Lewmar and Harken springs.
Terry
My winches are Barrient self tailers and they have an odd spring size. If anyone knows a source for Barrient springs please let me know. They are smaller than the common Lewmar and Harken springs.
Terry