Genoa Lead Cars

Please see the post RE new 7.9 masts

Moderators: Tim Bosma, Tom Elsen

Post Reply
Quinn McCarthy
Posts: 84
Joined: Fri Jan 17, 2003 12:12 pm
Location: International Falls, MN

Genoa Lead Cars

Post by Quinn McCarthy »

My genoa lead cars are in pretty sad condition. I need to replace them and was wondering what people have used and where they purchased them. I bought a set of Schaeffer 32-77 but they don't fit. I am looking for the type which lets you run more than one line. Is there an advantage to putting 4 new ones on so they don't have to be moved much?
User avatar
Tim Bosma
Web Lackey
Posts: 530
Joined: Tue Jan 14, 2003 4:56 pm
Location: West Michigan
Contact:

Post by Tim Bosma »

Quinn,
The sheeves in ours were gouged and rope burned, so we discussed options with the Sheafer rep at the Sail show in Chicago last winter. He suggested we send them in for new sheeves since the slides and pivots were still OK. We did that at a cost of about $50 per car. They ended up giving us complete new pivots and sheeves in black aluminum. If you have 1" track and a new set of Shaefer Twin Lead blocks from Sailnet will run you about $110.84 each.
Tim Bosma, Bosun
Hot Tamale Racing
boz@htr477.com
S2 7.9's : #477
User avatar
Tim Bosma
Web Lackey
Posts: 530
Joined: Tue Jan 14, 2003 4:56 pm
Location: West Michigan
Contact:

Post by Tim Bosma »

Sorry, Quinn, I just reread where you say the Sheafer 32-77 doesn't fit. What size are your tracks?
Tim Bosma, Bosun
Hot Tamale Racing
boz@htr477.com
S2 7.9's : #477
Jason Raaum
Posts: 6
Joined: Wed Aug 20, 2003 7:43 pm
Location: Everett, WA

Post by Jason Raaum »

Quinn,

We just replaced the delron sheaves this summer. We have 4 cars, and we picked the worst 2 and sent them to Shaefer to get them repaired (kept the other two to use). The cost was $60 some per (maybe more since it was in season?), and it took about a week and a half from when I mailed the package to when they were at my doorstep. Well worth it instead of buying new!

We keep the old two up by the shroudes for the No. 3 useage. We probably won't replace them since we don't use the No. 3 as often as #1 or 2 gib.

Jason
-------
Up & Coming
#129
Quinn McCarthy
Posts: 84
Joined: Fri Jan 17, 2003 12:12 pm
Location: International Falls, MN

Post by Quinn McCarthy »

I measured the track for the 3rd time and it is 1" X 1/8". Scheaffer assured me that I measured wrong and that it was really 3/16". I tried the 32-77 cars again and they are a few thousanths from fitting. I can get them started but they get tight quickly. Looks like I will have the old one rebuilt but it would be nice to get another pair and put the old ones up front for the jib.
grandillusion
Posts: 172
Joined: Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:42 am
Location: South Havenish

Post by grandillusion »

I have made the same blunder, the Schaefer 32-77 cars are supper tight, and it looks like the original track in Merriman, as are 2 of the genoa cars, file to fit or is there a lead car the fits better???
S2 7.9 216, H 16 80127, Star 6188
Quinn McCarthy
Posts: 84
Joined: Fri Jan 17, 2003 12:12 pm
Location: International Falls, MN

Post by Quinn McCarthy »

G. I.

We found a car that fit at holland marine. It is mae by FIco. It is a little on the big side but it work just fine. It's page 374 of the online catalog.

Hope that helps.

Quinn McCarthy
~~~~~Quinn McCarthy~~~~~
~~~~-Born 2 Run #545-~~~~
Tom Line
Posts: 137
Joined: Mon Jan 13, 2003 10:32 pm

Post by Tom Line »

I use the schafer cars. I simply ground them open slightly and they've worked fine.
Tom Line
Hull 421
Grrr...
8)
grandillusion
Posts: 172
Joined: Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:42 am
Location: South Havenish

Post by grandillusion »

that was my other option, thanks Tom, see you on the water!
S2 7.9 216, H 16 80127, Star 6188
sycmcsa
Posts: 84
Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:07 pm

Post by sycmcsa »

I found that Garhauer LLC-1UB fit the old track perfect. These are low profile single lead cars but they do make a twin lead and stand-up blocks version as well. They have a SWL of 200lbs and are ball brearing.

I was very impressed with the quality and price of the Garhauer. $46.59 each.

Image
sycmcsa
Posts: 84
Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:07 pm

Post by sycmcsa »

sycmcsa wrote:I found that Garhauer LLC-1UB fit the old track perfect. These are low profile single lead cars but they do make a twin lead and stand-up blocks version as well. They have a SWL of 200lbs and are ball brearing.

I was very impressed with the quality and price of the Garhauer. $46.59 each.

Image
correction, the SWL is 2000lbs - not 200!
sycmcsa
Posts: 84
Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:07 pm

Garhauer LLC-1UB

Post by sycmcsa »

I got mine from Hal at Port Paragon in Excelsior, MN. He also sells on eday under the user name "portparagon"

Port Paragon
7550 Dogwood Road
Excelsior, MN 55331
(952) 401-3792
Portparagon@aol.com
grandillusion
Posts: 172
Joined: Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:42 am
Location: South Havenish

NEW Schaefer cars

Post by grandillusion »

the West in Grand Rapids MI has a pair of 32-77 twin lead cars in the clearance rack, they are $118 each less 30% how this helps someone out, they WILL need to be filed out to fit the original
S2 7.9 216, H 16 80127, Star 6188
Fred Chadsey
Posts: 49
Joined: Fri Oct 17, 2003 5:43 pm
Location: gulf shores, al.

GENOA LEAD CARS

Post by Fred Chadsey »

IF YOUR RACING PHRF, I RECOMMEND YOU GO TO SCHAEFER'S ADJUSTABLE CAR SYSTEM. THEY'RE GREAT AND PERFORM SMALL ADJUSTMENTS BETTER THAN STANDARD TRACK CARS.
S2 7.9 hull # 467
Post Reply